Hey ladies I'm exactly 6 weeks preg today and I have crazy nausea for about a week now, but I woke up and find that my nipples aren't sore at all!! I'm in Cornwall for a few days but have decided to also have the early scan privately when back in London. Pregnancy. 7+3 and no sore boobs for the past 3 days. late period, really sore boobs, negative test?! Try not to worry - i know it's easy to say and hard to do. Also no MS but I do get a lil at night but I kick it by eating something small. However, this does not automatically qualify to the fact that your breasts are not preparing for pregnancy if they are not sore. I don't anymore. I thought for sure I was pregnant. This is my second and I remember the soreness going away the first time too. Baby Development. It's very scary after MC but try not to worry. Please. She said if there were no symptoms to begin with it would not be a problem, but for them to stop suddenly may well be a sign that the pregnancy is not viable. Try not to worry and take each day at a time. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. i worried myself sick and even posted on here! I'm only about seven weeks and my boobs aren't sore at all anymore. I am 9 weeks and 1 day. Learn more aboutour editorial and medical review policies. Nope! xleannex. Yesterday I had a bit of dicharge that was bloody, I phoned the midwife department at the hospital and I am booked in 2 days time for another scan. I'm hoping that when I go to my first midwife appointment in 3 weeks that they will offer me the early 8 week scan. I bet soon you'll be bombarded with a load of symptoms. Other than being larger than pre-pregnancy, they feel completely normal. Can't cope with the nausea/ sickness anymore :(, Get the days best CHAT sent straight to your inbox, I have read and understood Netmums' Privacy Notice and Terms & Conditions. With my first I didn't get nausea till the 3rd month!) It is all about your mindset and determination to suceed nursing. I know symptoms come and go, but for 3 days in a row? While it does not make great sense to me as to why it all happens, my doctors has told me to relax and stop sweating about it. I don't have sore breast either. However, 2 days ago this stopped suddenly, they are now normal size and are no longer tender. My only early symptom was sore boobs and this came and went, and still happens like this. Your breasts become enlarged when your body prepares for pregnancy, and this enlargement could lead to breast tenderness and soreness. In need of some advice to hopefully calm me down. A Group Leader is a What to Expect community member who has been selected by our staff to help maintain a positive, supportive tone within a group. Mention it to your midwife tomorrow and see what she says x, HPT are are totally not reliable they still show positive a week it 2 after a mc. The same goes for a change in the frequency of urination and other pregnancy symptoms. In addition, while breast soreness is one of the earliest signs of pregnancy, not every woman experiences the same degree of soreness. The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. Jun 30, 2020 3:06PM edited Jun 30, 2020 3:10PM. 17% of women surveyed in an APA poll said that changes in their breasts were the first sign they were pregnant. My scan is the 34th and oh is telling me to go and see my doctor if I'm worried but they will just say wait for your scan, in petrified as done the good old Google search and it ssting I could be having a missed mc, I would be devastated to go to the scan and there be no heart beat or an empty sac, I'm even to scared to do a pregnancy test just incase! Could this be a bad sign. Nipples not sore anymore 6 weeks pregnant. I'm so sorry for the losses you and your friend have experienced! I gave up nursing at 3 months with dd. :)I saw a hearbeat at 6wks. If I were you, present at A&E and ask for a scan. I am now 13 weeks and have had a number of scans which show there is a baby growing in there. How are all your pregnancies progressing? And feotus. No I haven't had any other symptoms, I was kind of relying on this one for reassurance. Their not as sore anymore! Group Owners uphold the core values of the brand by reporting content that violates the community guidelines. You probably don't have enough hcg (pregnancy hormone) fit the test to detect it. My breasts started to be more and more sore in a past few days and today suddenly they are still a bit enlarged (like before period) but not sore or heavy like they were even yesterday. Now today I wake up and nothing. Please try and keep cool. Every woman is different, and the same is true for every pregnancy. Most. Today though is the first day in around a month that my breasts have not been in agony when I woke up. Wow, i think Rach2186 has nailed it. See all replies (1) 3 Reply k krich137 Posted 1/5/14 Sore breasts started 3-4wks and disappeared at 6 wks. So, I know that I am looking for possible problems. Everything is fine. Just hang in there for your next appointment, and should you have any period like pains, that's when you go to A&E for an emergency scan - or you call your early pregnancy unit at the hosp and insist on a scan sooner. You've got nothing to lose - the worst they can say is no. I tested on a Monday and was negative. I'm new to this site so I'm unsure if a forum like this already exists. Although it's not half as bad as it was between 4-6 wks, anytime I think about breastfeeding with this sensitivity, I cringe. I have got everything crossed for you hun xxx. Show More. Trying not to stress, my doctor qas not very sensitive in explaining my baby may not be viable. Normal breast pain in pregnancy is commonly described as an all-over aching, swelling, tenderness or change in sensation in the breast or nipple. Hope youre all happy and healthy. Hi chidl88. x. 3. Hang in there, I know its hard after a mc. .. Happened to me too at 6 weeks and I was so worried. Category: Health. I don't think there's anything for you to worry about. All rights reserved. My few minor symptoms (tenderness, tiredness, hunger, thirst, cramping)all disappeared suddenlyat 7wks after 2-3hours of cramping. Should I be worried?? No bleeding and cramping so that is a positive sign! I would wait it out a few days. Today though is the first day in around a month that my breasts have not been in agony when I woke up. Symptoms. You might have experienced breast pain before or during your period. Tender or swollen breasts is one of the earliest symptoms of pregnancy. Private scans get you in very quick, I got one same day. While the entire breast may be sore, the nipples may hurt the mostor at least be the most sensitive. Even my bloating is gone, my pants can button up fine. According to the American Pregnancy Association (APA), the breast changes of pregnancy can appear as soon as one to two weeks after conception. I am worried too but my dr's appointment is on Thursday so I will see if he can hear the heartbeat at 10 weeks. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. I was concerned with this, but was going to have an u/s in the middle of the week so I never called the doctor. 10 DPO asda test. I do remember thinking that I didn't feel pregnant until my first scan At 11 weeks. Anyone else not have as sore breasts as before? I'm 7 weeks. pregnancy symptoms do come and go so it's probably nothing to worry about; however, your doctor can help put your mind at ease. And at 7wks when I'm supposed to be getting worse? Once you get past these next few weeks and have a healthy 12 week scan that should reassure you, the risks plummet dramatically and then when you start feeling it moving around you'll be able to relax. I know its worrying but if you think about it - going through a mmc is exactly the opposite, the body keeps making symptoms and there's no baby anymore. HELP?. Note that once you confirm, this action cannot be undone. But if you need more reassurance, you can always check in with your doctor. Has anyone else had this happen??? Not sure if that is because I think I am getting a cold and have extra mucas in my throat. Feb 28, 2023 at 6:59 AM. We respect everyones right to express their thoughts and opinions as long as they remain respectful of other community members, and meet What to Expects Terms of Use. Think everyone's different, With my first, mine were really painful for two weeks then disappeared completely all the way through, My only pregancy symptoms was morning sickness (until 29wks!) Fingers crossed it will be gone by then? and SPD in the last bit. My second pregancy however - my boobs hurts like hell from day 1 and lasted until I had DD2, sickness, so beyond tired & SPD, Spoke to midwife and she didnt seem concerned. With both miscarriages, I had no idea that there was a problem until I went in for my scheduled appointment. So worried - Ovary ache in early pregnancy. Wasn't pregnant. Just keep in mind that there is no real definition of normal as every pregnancy is different. Hoping my scan date is soon thank you xx. 22 weeks pregnant and having a few problems that are making my anxiety high. late period, really sore boobs, negative test?! is this normal in pregnancy? OMG same here! The educational health content on What To Expect is reviewed by our medical review board and team of experts to be up-to-date and in line with the latest evidence-based medical information and accepted health guidelines, including the medically reviewed What to Expect books by Heidi Murkoff. I don't remember if they stopped hurting so much with baby #1 but I am worried toothis pg is SO weird compared to the lastI never miscarried before so I don't know what to expect but my Dr did go over that happening just in case:(. All rights reserved. Boobs feel less sore at 5 weeks + 3. b. BecksterG. You're doing great SW2, hang in there chick. Most moms-to-be will worry about something over the course of their pregnancy. x, Didn't want to read and run but I don't really have an answer. From what I understand symptoms can fluctuate and if your midwife isn't concerned I'd hope that's a good sign. How did your scan today go? The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. 38+2, due March 12th. i noticed it first at 6 weeks, but have had plenty of sore days. Today i am 6 weeks 6 days, tomorrow i will be 7 weeks. me too 4- end of week 5.5 were killer then week 6 disappeared but remained huge and now just on and off noticeably sore seems normal. I should start spotting for AF Sunday or mobday this week and no sore boobs. Breast pain does tend to be more severe and pronounced in a woman's first pregnancy because it is the start of the final stage of breast maturation and development in a woman's lifetime. They were that bad last week I couldn't wash in the shower and knocked one on car door and was screaming it hurt that much. Are you going for an early scan in a few weeks at all? All this worry won't be doing your stress levels any good. No sore breasts doesn't mean miscarriage. Or some kind of good news. I wouldn't worry if I were you x, Thanks Susan it's just really tough when it was prob my main symptom then nothing. Should I be worried??? Any advice is greatly appreciated. Show Less. I am 5+1 weeks pregnant today. 10 weeks and breasts no longer sore. , author of What to Expect When You're Expecting. Thanks for the support! I had tingly sore breasts until the day after i did a pregnancy test - about 5.5 weeks. If you google it, the sheer amount of results with women just like is who loose their tender breasts around the same time is staggering and makes me think it's more of a symptom then getting them in the first place. Thank you Pickles, it's good to know that other people have experienced this too! - BabyCenter Australia I just know that they aren't sore anymore and it worries me. It is such a hard time once you've been through a miscarriage. Mine only hurt for about two weeks! December 2013. Other than being larger than pre-pregnancy, they feel completely normal. At 7dpo my boobs are just a bit tender on touch while since 1dpo they were super tender (ws keeping padded bra on while sleeping). 5 weeks and boobs aren't even the tiniest bit sore?? Xx, Who said 7 weeks your be at your worstevery women and pregnancy are different so there is no set timing on when you should be peaking in soreness or anythingsymptoms do come and go mine did for a good few days then come back and hit me twice as hard as beforesure your be fine x, Tbh it's my first pregnancy I have no idea, hence why your advice girls is so much appreciated x. I had this too and was convinced something was wrong. Completely and utterly normal. I'm 5 days late for AF, Tested yesterday morning & thi. Mine went away after about 7 weeks. That doctor doesnt really know what they are talking about!!! I'm now 11 weeks and 5days. Pregnancy Test - Line after 10mins - evap line or positive??? Click to visit Source: For others, it starts late and doesn't last very long at all. The other thing about boobs is they don't really need to develop until later in the pregnancy. Breast tenderness is common, but its absence in early pregnancy does not indicate a problem. Can't cope with the nausea/ sickness anymore :(. and i had sore breasts and now my breasts arent sore anymore. A Group Owner is a member that has initiated the creation of a group to connect with other members to share their journey through the same pregnancy & baby stages. I was told I was at increased risked for unexpected demise.. and i was told that I would most likely be induced early as 28 weeks. I've only been sick a couple of times since they put me on iron. In my case, breast tenderness comes and goes. I am the same way and this is my first. I know that hcg fluctuates so possibly its this? All I know is when I touch the tops of my breasts they are still hard. xxx, I'm glad Pickles commented as I was going to say the same. Surely this can't be normal so early on? I'm pregnant with my third baby so hopefully my experience can help. I feel a bit concerned when it goes away, but then it returns. 7 Weeks Pregnant. I just want to make sure this doesn't affect my ability to breastfeed. She's in the 3rd percentile.. in the last 29 days she's only grown 9 days worth. Should you worry if you notice no changes in your breasts during pregnancy? 8w 4d today. My breasts are still a little swollen but I'm a little concerned !!! Advice for Partners. Mumsnet carries some affiliate marketing links, so if you buy something through our posts, we may get a small share of the sale (more details here). 7 weeks pregnant: What to expect. I'm 5 days late for AF, Tested yesterday morning & this morning negative pregnancy test My boobs USE to hurt so bad but this morning when I woke up they dont hurt anymore so now im freaking out that im not pregnant and something is wrong with me because my period is late 5 days.. They may . I dont think its a sign of impending mc. It's possible to be pregnant and have no pregnancy symptoms, but it's uncommon. Any advice? I have a difficult and stressful time at work that requires my full attention but instead I can only sit and worry about my pregnancy. 09/01/2021 14:16. i cant help just worrying so much by this! Here's what you need to know. Did they see anything at the 4 week scan ? Over the past two weeks, I 've only had nipple tenderness and boobs were sore at night if I tried laying on my stomach. I lefta msg for the nurse this wkend but she didn't call me back. Check the realsigns of miscarriage, such as the following: Is It Normal to Have No Sore Breasts in Early Pregnancy. No clue! If so, was your outcomes good or bad? Still dog tired though and nausea 15 minutes after getting up and bizarrely late at night when getting up for a wee. Group Leaders communicate with staff moderators and escalate potential violations for review, but they dont moderate discussions. Posted 13/1/13. I am in a panic all the time. Normal?? No fetal pole? I keep poking and prodding to see if they're hurting again. Breast changes during pregnancy. I found out I was pregnant on 31/12/12, the last two day my nipples are no longer sore (they have been very sore the last 2 weeks) and my boobs feel less tender than they were, I had a miscarriage . 5 Weeks Pregnant. now im at 8 and its easing again. Everyone's different and symptoms come and go all the time especially when placenta starts to take over from your body don't worry I'm sure everything is fine with baby, Scan went really well girls. She said some women dont get symptoms. Saw our little nut measuring just ahead of schedule at 8.1wks. Have been having cramps for weeks but still 0cm and only 50% effaced. Your baby is growing, too. It is just normal.". Special Considerations. Another lady on here told me that sometimes the body can get used to being pregnant so no symptoms are there. Week 7 I got an ultrasound and my baby is just fine. It finally appeared in my 8th week and my boobs are really killing me since. 2. Bottom line? Sure once you reach certain milestones, the fear levels drop, but like you, i never ever felt sick,was never ever sick,I had terribly sore boos that came and went, but with my third pregnancy, i never had the stabbing pains in my uterus (which i later knew was the msc during second preg) and it was different. The only positive thing I can think is that sore boobs comes and goes. ! 1997-2023 BabyCenter, LLC, a Ziff Davis company. Breastfeeding: the trick to a comfy latch. They come and go all the time and you may just be having an easy few days before they come back full force. The views expressed in community are solely the opinions of participants, and do not reflect those of What to Expect. ? Hi, I'm going through the same I had a mc at 17 + weeks in December 2010! I have had an ultrasound and everything is fine. Anyone else had this or should I be worried? I have had pretty much sore breasts from the beginning and then for the last few days have been super nauseous. I guess I was just hoping that someone else could tell me that they had had the same thing happen to them and everything was ok. You knowreassurance! The day after the soreness came back and morning sickness like its going out of style. I'm so pleased you've both had the same and are progressing none the less :) xx, Thank you for your comment Nikki, it's so true about every one being so different! Ive asked ppl I know who have been preg and they say its normal but even tiredness has gone im not convinced. The #1 app for tracking pregnancy and baby growth. I did call my doctorshe told me to try and relax and that she would see me next week. my breast soreness almost completely went away at the start of 11 weeks. I will say and need to remind myself too . Just try to be positive, after all, every woman's body is different. Just worried Hello friends, first time mom here. Get the days best CHAT sent straight to your inbox, I have read and understood Netmums' Privacy Notice and Terms & Conditions. It's probably that you're being super watchful over all your symptoms cos of the heartbreak you've suffered. I just posted a similar thread and nobody responded but this is happening to me too!!! Before I almost cried if I accidentally hit them on something. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. I am eight weeks pregnant, and i had sore breasts and now my breasts arent sore anymore. Keep your skin moisturized I haven't really had many symptoms except fatigue and sore breasts. In that time from then til like the past week, I felt ALL THE THINGS - nausea, vomiting, what I think was implantation cramping, Hello! I guess I'm posting because I would love to hear from other women who have experienced a sudden stop of symptoms in very early pregnancy to either have them return soon enough or to go on to have a healthy pregnancy. . "I am 6 weeks pregnant and my breasts are not sore at all. s. smrthirteen. I had a MC in June and just don't anything to happen to this baby. Mine fluctuate between extremely sore and nothing at all every few days and I'm now 23 weeks gone. Lasted a week and a half. I wake up every morning wanting to feel sick for peace of mind, but nothing. Apply a cold compress Cold helps decrease inflammation or soreness. This educational content is not medical or diagnostic advice. All What to Expect content that addresses health or safety is medically reviewed by a team of vetted health professionals. Hey y'all, 7 weeks pregnant here and my boobs are only sore when I take my bra off. Which i'm not Just some backache & a full / pressure feeling in my uterus. Sending positive vibes, Hi I'm 20+1 and my boob's hurt the tiniest bit for about a week then went and since then nothing no symptoms at all try not to google things too much I made that mistake and scared myself silly. ", "You should stop worrying about your breasts not being swollen or tender. She originally thought 11 weeks from last full cycle. Sorry meant to say they've been like that since I found out (5 weeks) and when they aren't sore I wear a smaller bra, Symptoms can come and go, but if you have any concerns get yourself a scan, No not took another test as I assumed hormone would still be there. You may start to feel bloated and your breasts may start getting bigger. Your post will be hidden and deleted by moderators. I went to my doctor yesterday. I am now 8wks. And you would think once you can feel movements that there would be no need to worry but it gets replaced by a whole new set of worries of has the baby moved enough today and I can't remember feeling a kick for awhile. Anybody else have symptoms kind of disappear? I already had an u/s scheduled for this Friday so we'll see then. Moreover, a rise in progesterone hormones in early pregnancy can also lead to breast tenderness, as it leads to fluid retention in your breasts. She said it is very unusual but can happen sometimes but kept saying over and over that in most healthy pregnancies, any symptoms you begin with should persist until at least week 10. Im 7 weeks now and theyre back to being SO sore! This will provide the best support for you and your baby until full term. It seems like they are starting to go away. With my 2nd pregnancy they didn't hurt much and I was normal feeling but managed to nurse DS a year. Some women notice breast tenderness as soon as a few days after conception, whereas others don't experience it until weeks later. Because with my son I didn't produce enough milk. However, 2 days ago this stopped suddenly, they are now normal size and are no longer tender. I've had absolutely no morning sickness, just increased sense of smell. Anyway hope my ramblings have helped a little. Group Black's collective includes Essence, The Shade Room and Naturally Curly. My boobs just aren't sore, they feel bigger by the end of the day but I woke up this morning and they just feel normal again. Best of luck, I'm sure you're fine ^_^. Have you took another test? Should I be worried? No reason this bean shouldnt be the sticky one x, Thankyou SO MUCH rach & mrsg your stories havevreally been a reassurance to read x, Yes, Rach and MrsG's replies seem to make loads of sense and having some previous experience there is a lot more helpful too!! I found a scan at about 8 weeks helped me not to worry as much! Had first ultrasound this morning, heard and saw the (very strong) heartbeat. If you're due in a different month, check out our otherbirth clubs here. The initial pain is your body adjusting to hormones and then later on its about getting your milk supply ready. Use of this site is subject to our terms of use and privacy policy. 8 weeks pregnant boobs VERY painful!! You may be "glowing" or struggling with acne. What to Expect supports Group Black and its mission to increase greater diversity in media voices and media ownership. PREGNACARE VITAMINS..MAKING ME SO SICK? Mahalo. 31 weeks now and they just tingle every now and again that's all. Feeling very anxious this morning. Submitted: 16 years ago. 6 weeks and breasts feel less sore worried I am having a miscarriage : (. I have actually become used to this cycle. I think the reason I'm worrying is because they hurt for literally a few days. How far gone are you? Unfortunately the worry will never go away. It's usually followed by another scan at 18-21 weeks. I had a miscarriage 4 years ago and my breasts suddenly stopped hurting then too, although this was immediately accompanied by heavy bleeding and painful cramping so I am trying to remain positive. I also notice that somedays I feel better than others. SaranJonathan member. This never happens. First cold sore while pregnant Health Warning! Create an account or log in to participate. But I can't help but worry I'm losing the . My breasts aren't as sore anymore either. We really shouldn't ONLY depend on our symptoms to reassure us. Some women noticebreast tenderness as soon as a few days after conception, whereas others don't experience it until weeks later. All sickness, tiredness and sore boobs stopped last tuesday and I just don't feel pregnant anymore. Let's find out more about it. Was all fine in there at our early scan. To comment on this thread you need to create a Mumsnet account. Anonymous Our. Both situations are normal, but you can certainly check with your doctor for more reassurance. You may experience it within a couple of weeks after conception. Here is a pic of our beautiful baby. ", "I had nosore breasts in early pregnancy and that made me worry. 6 weeks and suddenly not feeling pregnant anymore!! Some moms-to-be have nipples thatfeel more tender and may protrude more than usual; many women notice that theirareolas become darker, bigger and possibly spotted. However, concerned about dropping levels. 6 weeks and suddenly not feeling pregnant anymore!! My boobs stopped hurting at around 8 weeks and I had nothing to suggest I was pregnant. No sore breasts in early pregnancy does not mean that there is something wrong, especially when there are other signs of pregnancy. Good luck to you!! Yesterday I had a bit of dicharge that was bloody, I phoned the midwife department at the hospital and I am booked in 2 days time for another scan. I have also noticed that my left breast seems to be swollen and mishapen, should i go to my GP for a check up? Soon enough, you'll start feeling some symptoms (in other words, be careful what you wish for!). Estrogen causes the breast ducts to enlarge. Group Leaders arent expected to spend any additional time in the community, and are not held to a set schedule. 2005-2023Everyday Health, Inc., a Ziff Davis company. And please keep us posted. I'm hoping to god all that is normal & just trying to stay calm & not think negatively for now. 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